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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Στις 17/04/2014 01:59 μμ, ο/η Pavlos
      Ponos έγραψε:<br>
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    Εδώ θα το βρεις  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.4/release/">http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.4/release/</a><br>
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        Το mini.iso κατεβάζω;<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2014-04-17 13:43 GMT+03:00 Pavlos Ponos
          <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:pavlos.ponos@gmail.com" target="_blank">pavlos.ponos@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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                <div>Καλησπέρα Σέργιε.<br>
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                Παίζει κάποιο ρόλο αν θα έχω το secure boot enable 'η
                disable;<br>
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              Δε θα χρειαστεί να κάνω ξεχωριστό partition για το uefi;<br>
              Αν δεν κάνω λάθος ο Βαγγέλης χθες αυτό μου είπε.<br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">2014-04-17 11:20 GMT+03:00 Sergey
                Tsabolov ( aka linuxman ) <span dir="ltr"><<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:sergios@greeklug.gr" target="_blank">sergios@greeklug.gr</a>></span>:
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                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Για να
                        σταματήσεις να ασχολείσαι με χαζά τύπου  secure
                        boot uefi κτλ.<br>
                        Κλειστό τελείως, από την στιγμή που δεν υπάρχουν
                        τα 8 εκεί, αν υπάρχουν τότε χωρίς secure δεν θα
                        ανοίξουν,<br>
                        <br>
                        Για να κάνεις εγκατάσταση είτε 12.04.4 είτε
                        14.04 θα κατεβάσεις Alternate cd και θα κάνεις
                        εγκατάσταση από αυτό, χωρίς ξεχωριστό /boot
                        κανονικά <br>
                        / (root file system)  /swap  /home και εάν
                        δίσκος είναι πολύ μεγάλος  /media/Data
                        /media/Backup και ότι άλλο νομίζεις.<br>
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                        <div>Στις 17/04/2014 12:45 πμ, ο/η Pavlos Ponos
                          έγραψε:<br>
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                              <div dir="ltr">Στάθη θα το δοκιμάσω μόνο
                                και μόνο για να μου φύγει η ιδέα αλλά
                                νομίζω ότι απ' τη 12.04.4 υπάρχει
                                υποστήριξη για uefi.
                                <div>To δοκιμάζω και επανέρχομαι..</div>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">2014-04-17 0:30
                                  GMT+03:00 Efstathios Iosifidis <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:iefstathios@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">iefstathios@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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                                    style="margin:0 0 0
                                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                    solid;padding-left:1ex"> Παύλο,
                                    δοκίμασε να εγκαταστήσεις νεότερη
                                    έκδοση Ubuntu. Η 12.04 ήταν<br>
                                    στο μεταίχμιο νομίζω.<br>
                                    Θα σου συνιστούσα την 14.04 που
                                    βγαίνει σήμερα το απόγευμα.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Φιλικά,<br>
                                    Στάθης<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Στις 16 Απριλίου 2014 - 11:56 μ.μ.,
                                    ο χρήστης Pavlos Ponos<br>
                                    <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:pavlos.ponos@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">pavlos.ponos@gmail.com</a>>

                                    έγραψε:<br>
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                                      <div>> Ας τα πάρουμε απ' την
                                        αρχή..<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > Αγόρασα τη Δευτέρα ένα
                                        καινούργιο υπολογιστή στον οποίο
                                        ήθελα να ξηλώσω τα<br>
                                        > windows 8.1 και να βάλω
                                        μόνο ubuntu.<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > Καταρχήν, δοκίμασα το dvd
                                        σε άλλο υπολογιστή και φορτώνει
                                        κανονικά, άρα<br>
                                        > νομίζω δεν τίθεται θέμα γι
                                        αυτό.<br>
                                        > Όπως μου είπες, άφησα
                                        ενεργοποιήμενο το secure boot.<br>
                                        > Βάζω το δισκάκι, και δεν
                                        μου εμφανίζει την μωβ οθόνη που
                                        δείχνει όταν<br>
                                        > φορτώνει το live cd αλλά
                                        μου δίνει 3 επιλογές, install,
                                        try και check disk.<br>
                                        > Ότι απ' τα 2 πρώτα και να
                                        επιλέξω, η οθόνη παραμένει
                                        μαύρη, όσο και να<br>
                                        > περιμένω δεν γίνεται κάτι.
                                        Απ' το θόρυβο που κάνει ο
                                        υπολογιστής μπορώ να<br>
                                        > καταλάβω ότι έχει φορτώσει
                                        απλά η οθόνη δεν δείχνει τίποτα.<br>
                                        > Αυτό είναι το πρόβλημα
                                        μου..<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > Επίσης, πριν την παρούσα
                                        απόπειρα μου να κάνω εγκατάσταση
                                        το ubuntu 12.04,<br>
                                        > δοκίμασα με ένα cd από
                                        debian.<br>
                                        > Δεν ξέρω αν παίζει κάποιο
                                        ρόλο αλλά έσβησα όλα τα
                                        partitions που είχε από<br>
                                        > πριν ο υπολογισής και έκανα
                                        root, home και swap.<br>
                                        > H εγκατάσταση τελείωσε
                                        χωρίς να βγάλει κανένα μήνυμα
                                        αλλά ποτέ δεν μπόρεσα<br>
                                        > να μπουτάρω το σύστημα.<br>
                                        > Αμέσως μετά, έκανα το ίδιο
                                        με το ubuntu, έκανα την ίδια
                                        διαδικασία<br>
                                        > εγκατάστασης κάνοντας αυτή
                                        τη φορά ένα partition για uefi
                                        αλλά και πάλι δεν<br>
                                        > έγινε τπτ.<br>
                                        > Το σύστημα ξεκινάει αλλά
                                        καταλήγει σε κονσόλα και όταν
                                        δίνω startx μου<br>
                                        > βγάζει το παρακάτω μήνυμα:<br>
                                        > Fatal server error:<br>
                                        > no screens found<br>
                                        > (EE)<br>
                                        > Server terminated with
                                        error (1).<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > Συνοψίζοντας, πως μπορώ να
                                        κάνω το partition που λες τώρα
                                        αφού δεν ξεκινάει<br>
                                        > το σύστημα καν;<br>
                                        > Ή τουλάχιστον ξεκινάει αλλά
                                        δεν φαίνεται τπτ στην οθόνη..<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > 2014-04-16 21:34 GMT+03:00
                                        Vangelis Mouhtsis <<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:vangelis@gnugr.org"
                                          target="_blank">vangelis@gnugr.org</a>>:<br>
                                        ><br>
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                                        >> Στις 16/04/2014 08:27
                                        μμ, ο/η Pavlos Ponos έγραψε:<br>
                                        >> > Δοκίμασα να κάνω
                                        αυτό που λες αλλά συμβαίνουν 2
                                        πράγματα: 1) το dvd<br>
                                        >> > μπουτάρει αλλά η
                                        οθόνη παραμένει μαύρη, αφού έχω
                                        επιλέξει το try<br>
                                        >> > ubuntu.. 2) το
                                        μήνυμα που γράφω στο αρχικό μου
                                        mail, τι μπορεί να<br>
                                        >> > σημαίνει; Είναι
                                        κάποιο πρόβλημα hardware;<br>
                                        >> ><br>
                                        >> Δεν καταλαβαίνω τι
                                        θέλεις να πεις, εγώ νόμισα ότι
                                        θέλεις να κάνεις<br>
                                        >> εγκατάσταση.<br>
                                        >> Μόλις εχτές έκανα με
                                        τον Παναγιώτη Πίτελο εγκατάσταση
                                        σε rolling<br>
                                        >> κατάσταση
                                        Debian/stable/testing/sid και
                                        κάναμε ακριβώς αυτό.<br>
                                        >> Δώσαμε 500ΜΒ στο boot
                                        του grub-efi-amd64 και τα
                                        υπόλοιπα με τον<br>
                                        >> συνηθισμένο τρόπο και
                                        όλα πήγαν μια χαρά.<br>
                                        >> Εάν εννοείς για
                                        dual-boot με windows8 πάλι η
                                        διαδικασία πρέπει<br>
                                        >> να είναι η ίδια.<br>
                                        >> Χρειάζεται όμως να
                                        εξετάσουμε εάν το .iso έχει
                                        γραφτεί καλά,<br>
                                        >> εάν το cd/dvd είναι οκ,
                                        και επίσης εαν ο bootloader των
                                        windows<br>
                                        >> έχει αφαιρεθεί.<br>
                                        >> Για το εάν υπάρχει
                                        hardware πρόβλημα το θεωρώ
                                        λιγάκι αδύνατο,<br>
                                        >> διότι απ'ότι
                                        καταλαβαίνω το "εργαλείο" πρέπει
                                        να είναι σχετικα<br>
                                        >> καινούριο.<br>
                                        >> Εάν έχεις κάτι άλλο
                                        χρήσιμο να προσθέσεις, είμαι
                                        πρόθυμος να<br>
                                        >> βοηθήσω και πάλι το
                                        ξαναλέω για πιο άμεση
                                        επικοινωνία ελάτε<br>
                                        >> στο #debian-gr <a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://irc.oftc.net"
                                          target="_blank">irc.oftc.net</a><br>
                                        >><br>
                                        >> Φιλικά<br>
                                        >> gnugr<br>
                                        >><br>
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                                        >> Version: GnuPG v1<br>
                                        >> Comment: Using GnuPG
                                        with Icedove - <a
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                                        >>
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                                        >>
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                                        >>
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                                        >>
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                                        > Pavlos K. Ponos<br>
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