<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Με το Arch αυτό έχω κάνει ήδη. Στην αρχή εγκατεστησα ένα ελάχιστο περιβάλλον και μετά έβαλα ότι μου χρειάστηκε. Όμως αυτό δεν έχει σχέση με την βελτιστοποίηση του πυρήνα, έτσι δεν είναι; </div><div><br></div>  <div style="font-family: 'Courier New', courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">  <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Απο:</span></b> Sergey Tsabolov ( aka linuxman ) <sergios@greeklug.gr><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Προς:</span></b> Leonidas Liakos
 <leonidas_liakos@yahoo.gr> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Κοιν.:</span></b> "greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" <greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Στάλθηκε:</span></b> 12:13 μ.μ. Δευτέρα, 15 Ιουλίου 2013<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Θέμα:</span></b> Re: [Greeklug] Σχετ:  Σχετ:  Σχετ:  Βελτιστοποίηση πυρήνα<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv8365316390">
  
    
  
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    <div class="yiv8365316390moz-cite-prefix">Στις 15/07/2013 10:46 πμ, ο/η Leonidas
      Liakos έγραψε:<br>
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        <div><span>Καλημέρα, δεν έχω κάποιο πρόβλημα, όλα δουλεύουν μια
            χαρά. Κάνω όλη την διαδικασία για εκπαιδευτικούς λόγους.</span></div>
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    Μπράβο, <br>
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            με το make localmodconfig o πυρήνας κράτησε τα απαραίτητα
            modules για όλες τις ενεργοποιημένες συσκευές του συστήματος
            (γι'αυτό άλλωστε το make κράτησε μόνο 6-7 λεπτά).</span></div>
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    Ναι λογικά έτσι είναι, κάποτε το έκανα έτσι σε Ubuntu 6.06 νομίζω,<br>
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          να βάλω κάθε συστατικό της διανομής με το χέρι τι εννοείς;</div>
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    Εννοώ να κάνεις κάτι σαν Debian netinstall χωρίς γραφικό περιβάλλον,
    και μετά να αρχίζεις να βάζεις βήμα/βήμα ότι χρειάζεσαι.<br>
    Το μόνο που χρειάζεται από την αρχή είναι να το βασικό σύστημα με
    ελάχιστα πράγματα.<br>
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              <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Απο:</span></b> Sergey
                Tsabolov ( aka linuxman ) <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv8365316390moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:sergios@greeklug.gr" target="_blank" href="mailto:sergios@greeklug.gr"><sergios@greeklug.gr></a><br>
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Προς:</span></b>
                Leonidas Liakos <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv8365316390moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:leonidas_liakos@yahoo.gr" target="_blank" href="mailto:leonidas_liakos@yahoo.gr"><leonidas_liakos@yahoo.gr></a> <br>
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Κοιν.:</span></b>
                <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv8365316390moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank" href="mailto:greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr">"greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr"</a>
                <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv8365316390moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank" href="mailto:greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr"><greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr></a> <br>
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Στάλθηκε:</span></b>
                10:30 π.μ. Δευτέρα, 15 Ιουλίου 2013<br>
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Θέμα:</span></b> Re:
                [Greeklug] Σχετ: Σχετ: Βελτιστοποίηση πυρήνα<br>
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                <div> Καλημέρα,<br>
                  Εάν πραγματικά θες να κάνεις Βελτιστοποίηση πυρήνα
                  για το μηχάνημα που έχεις και να τρέχει μόνο αυτά που
                  πρέπει, τότε θα πρέπει να το μαζέψεις από το 0.<br>
                  Δηλαδή να βάλεις κάθε συστατικό διανομής με το χέρι,<br>
                  Ρωτάς γιατί τρέχουν "άχρηστα" mοdules, δεν τρέχουν
                  "άχρηστα", κάθε διανομή τρέχει τα ουσιώδης απαραίτητα
                  για να μπορεί να τρέξει σε ότι υλικό θα δώσεις στην
                  διανομή.<br>
                  Ας πούμε, έχεις κάνει Βελτιστοποίηση πυρήνα και
                  έχεις κόψει ότι όπως λες 'άχρηστα" modules τρέχουν για
                  το μηχάνημα σου, και χρειάζεται να μεταφέρεις το δίσκο
                  σε ένα άλλο μηχάνημα που  δεν έχει  το ίδιο
                  CPU,RAM,Motherboard κτλ., νομίζεις ότι πυρήνας θα βρει
                  όλα τα απαραίτητα για να μπορεί να ανοίξει το μηχάνημα
                  σωστά;<br>
                  Εγώ νομίζω ότι όχι.<br>
                  Με το CPU που έχεις και λογικά έχεις αρκετή μνήμη δεν
                  νομίζω ότι υπάρχει λόγος να κάνεις αυτή την
                  διαδικασία.<br>
                  Πες τι ακριβός πρόβλημα υπάρχει για να δούμε α
                  πρέπει/χρειάζεται να κάνεις την Βελτιστοποίηση
                  πυρήνα η δεν χρειάζεται. <br>
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                  <div class="yiv8365316390moz-cite-prefix">Στις
                    15/07/2013 01:14 πμ, ο/η Leonidas Liakos έγραψε:<br>
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                      <div><span>Τα απαραίτητα modules δεν είναι εκείνα
                          που αναγνωρίσε η εντολή <span style="font-style:italic;">make
                            localmodconfig</span> ?</span></div>
                      <div class="yiv8365316390yui_3_7_2_56_1373836097361_177" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: 'Courier New', courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; background-color: transparent;"><span>Γιατί χρειάζονται φόρτωμα,
                          αφού κατά την εκκίνηση το udev αναγνωρίζει και
                          σηκώνει τα απαραίτητα modules, έτσι δεν είναι;</span></div>
                      <div class="yiv8365316390yui_3_7_2_56_1373836097361_177" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: 'Courier New', courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Έτσι και
                          αλλιώς υποτίθεται ότι η </span><span><span style="font-style:italic;">make localmodconfig </span><span>δεν
                            έχει αφήσει άχρηστα modules.</span></span></div>
                      <div class="yiv8365316390yui_3_7_2_56_1373836097361_53" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: 'Courier New', courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: italic;"><span></span><span>Το

                          παραπλήσιο <span>εργαλείο</span> του </span>update-initramfs

                        -u νομίζω είναι το <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mkinitcpio">mkinitcpio</a></div>
                      <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: 'Courier New', courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; background-color: transparent;"><span><span>Είναι η πρώτη φορά που
                            ασχολούμε με τον πυρήνα και την διαδικασία
                            του boot και μερικά πράγματα δεν μου είναι
                            γνωστα</span></span></div>
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                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Απο:</span></b>
                              vangelis mouhtsis <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv8365316390moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:vangelis@gnugr.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:vangelis@gnugr.org"><vangelis@gnugr.org></a><br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Προς:</span></b>
                              <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv8365316390moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank" href="mailto:greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr">greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a>
                              <br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Στάλθηκε:</span></b>
                              12:51 π.μ. Δευτέρα, 15 Ιουλίου 2013<br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Θέμα:</span></b>
                              Re: [Greeklug] Σχετ: Βελτιστοποίηση
                              πυρήνα<br>
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                            Στις 15/07/2013 12:44 πμ, ο/η Leonidas
                            Liakos έγραψε:<br>
                            > Arch Linux με Intel(R) Core(TM)
                            i5-2450M CPU @ 2.50GHz<br>
                            > <br>
                            > lspci<br>
                            > <br>
                            > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation
                            2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM
                            Controller (rev 09)<br>
                            > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation
                            Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Core Processor
                            Family PCI Express Root Port (rev 09)<br>
                            > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller:
                            Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core
                            Processor Family Integrated Graphics
                            Controller (rev 09)<br>
                            > 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel
                            Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset
                            Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)<br>
                            > 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel
                            Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset
                            Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev
                            05)<br>
                            > 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation
                            6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High
                            Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)<br>
                            > 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6
                            Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI
                            Express Root Port 1 (rev b5)<br>
                            > 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6
                            Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI
                            Express Root Port 3 (rev b5)<br>
                            > 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6
                            Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI
                            Express Root Port 5 (rev b5)<br>
                            > 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel
                            Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset
                            Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev
                            05)<br>
                            > 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation
                            HM67 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller
                            (rev 05)<br>
                            > 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel
                            Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset
                            Family 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 05)<br>
                            > 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6
                            Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus
                            Controller (rev 05)<br>
                            > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller:
                            NVIDIA Corporation GF108M [GeForce GT 525M]
                            (rev a1)<br>
                            > 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel
                            Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030
                            [Rainbow Peak] (rev 34)<br>
                            > 03:00.0 USB controller: Fresco Logic
                            FL1009 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 02)<br>
                            > 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek
                            Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E
                            PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev
                            05)<br>
                            > <br>
                            > lsmod<br>
                            > <br>
                            > Module                  Size  Used by<br>
                            > nls_cp437              5953  1 <br>
                            > nls_utf8                1320  1 <br>
                            > vfat                  10119  1 <br>
                            > fat                    49357  1 vfat<br>
                            > ntfs                  191017  1 <br>
                            > fuse                  70985  3 <br>
                            > intel_powerclamp        8802  0 <br>
                            > coretemp                6102  0 <br>
                            > kvm_intel            125437  0 <br>
                            > kvm                  390263  1
                            kvm_intel<br>
                            > crc32_pclmul            3019  0 <br>
                            > crc32c_intel          14249  0 <br>
                            > ghash_clmulni_intel    4501  0 <br>
                            > aesni_intel            45449  0 <br>
                            > aes_x86_64              7399  1
                            aesni_intel<br>
                            > arc4                    2000  2 <br>
                            > uvcvideo              72921  0 <br>
                            > xts                    3007  1
                            aesni_intel<br>
                            > snd_hda_codec_realtek    30893  1 <br>
                            > joydev                  9695  0 <br>
                            > iwldvm                171318  0 <br>
                            > lrw                    3565  1
                            aesni_intel<br>
                            > mac80211              487534  1 iwldvm<br>
                            > videobuf2_vmalloc      3304  1 uvcvideo<br>
                            > videobuf2_memops        2367  1
                            videobuf2_vmalloc<br>
                            > snd_hda_intel          35816  3 <br>
                            > btusb                  14665  0 <br>
                            > snd_hda_codec        145704  2
                            snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel<br>
                            > gf128mul                6018  2 lrw,xts<br>
                            > snd_hwdep              6364  1
                            snd_hda_codec<br>
                            > bluetooth            303092  2 btusb<br>
                            > videobuf2_core        27541  1 uvcvideo<br>
                            > r8169                  56359  0 <br>
                            > videodev              105273  2
                            uvcvideo,videobuf2_core<br>
                            > ablk_helper            1972  1
                            aesni_intel<br>
                            > snd_pcm                76860  2
                            snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel<br>
                            > iwlwifi              142150  1 iwldvm<br>
                            > dell_wmi                1485  0 <br>
                            > sparse_keymap          3114  1 dell_wmi<br>
                            > media                  10309  2
                            uvcvideo,videodev<br>
                            > cfg80211              452012  3
                            iwlwifi,mac80211,iwldvm<br>
                            > snd_page_alloc          7330  2
                            snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel<br>
                            > snd_timer              18687  1 snd_pcm<br>
                            > snd                    58893  12
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel<br>
                            > iTCO_wdt                5407  0 <br>
                            > soundcore              5418  1 snd<br>
                            > iTCO_vendor_support    1929  1 iTCO_wdt<br>
                            > ses                    6206  0 <br>
                            > enclosure              6234  1 ses<br>
                            > mei                    58110  0 <br>
                            > cryptd                  8537  3
                            ghash_clmulni_intel,aesni_intel,ablk_helper<br>
                            > rfkill                15626  3
                            cfg80211,bluetooth<br>
                            > dell_laptop            8851  0 <br>
                            > dcdbas                  6487  1
                            dell_laptop<br>
                            > i2c_i801              11269  0 <br>
                            > microcode              13204  0 <br>
                            > mii                    4059  1 r8169<br>
                            > lpc_ich                12849  0 <br>
                            > pcspkr                  2027  0 <br>
                            > ac                      2536  0 <br>
                            > psmouse                84588  0 <br>
                            > serio_raw              5041  0 <br>
                            > thermal                8652  0 <br>
                            > battery                6970  0 <br>
                            > wmi                    8347  1 dell_wmi<br>
                            > mperf                  1267  0 <br>
                            > processor              27555  0 <br>
                            > evdev                  9912  18 <br>
                            > ext4                  486052  4 <br>
                            > crc16                  1359  2
                            ext4,bluetooth<br>
                            > mbcache                5930  1 ext4<br>
                            > jbd2                  85240  1 ext4<br>
                            > usb_storage            47063  2 <br>
                            > sr_mod                14930  0 <br>
                            > cdrom                  35104  1 sr_mod<br>
                            > sd_mod                30858  9 <br>
                            > hid_generic            1153  0 <br>
                            > usbhid                40892  0 <br>
                            > hid                    87539  2
                            hid_generic,usbhid<br>
                            > ahci                  22696  4 <br>
                            > ehci_pci                4120  0 <br>
                            > libahci                21201  1 ahci<br>
                            > xhci_hcd              89447  0 <br>
                            > ehci_hcd              47375  1 ehci_pci<br>
                            > libata                170065  2
                            ahci,libahci<br>
                            > scsi_mod              129660  5
                            ses,usb_storage,libata,sd_mod,sr_mod<br>
                            > usbcore              177027  7
                            btusb,uvcvideo,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,ehci_pci,usbhid,xhci_hcd<br>
                            > usb_common              954  1 usbcore<br>
                            > i915                  562678  2 <br>
                            > video                  11138  1 i915<br>
                            > button                  4669  1 i915<br>
                            > i2c_algo_bit            5391  1 i915<br>
                            > intel_agp              10936  1 i915<br>
                            > intel_gtt              12664  2
                            i915,intel_agp<br>
                            > drm_kms_helper        35086  1 i915<br>
                            > drm                  229990  3
                            i915,drm_kms_helper<br>
                            > i2c_core              22479  6
                            drm,i915,i2c_i801,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit,videodev<br>
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                            > ________________________________<br>
                            >  Απο: vangelis mouhtsis <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vangelis@gnugr.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:vangelis@gnugr.org">vangelis@gnugr.org</a>><br>
                            > Προς: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank" href="mailto:greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr">greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a>
                            <br>
                            > Στάλθηκε: 12:35 π.μ. Δευτέρα, 15
                            Ιουλίου 2013<br>
                            > Θέμα: Re: [Greeklug] Βελτιστοποίηση
                            πυρήνα<br>
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                            > Στις 15/07/2013 12:32 πμ, ο/η Leonidas
                            Liakos έγραψε:<br>
                            >> Προσπαθώ να βελτιστοποιήσω τον
                            πυρήνα μου (3.10.1). Μέχρι στιγμής δεν έχω
                            κάνει πολλά πράγματα, απλά έχω δηλώσει τον
                            επεξεργαστή μου και έτρεξα make
                            localmodconfig για να κόψω άχρηστα modules.
                            Μέχρι στιγμής ξεκινάει μια χαρά και παίζουν
                            όλα.Τι άλλο μπορώ να κάνω για
                            βελτιστοποίηση;<br>
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                            >> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank" href="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr">Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a><br>
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                            Σωματείο/Σύλλογος GreekLUG δεν φέρει καμία
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                            e-mail το οποίο εκφράζει μόνο τις απόψεις
                            του συγγραφέα.<br>
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                            > Πες μας και μερικές ακόμα λεπτομέρεις,
                            όπως ποιά διανομή<br>
                            > έχεις, για αρχή!<br>
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                            > greetings<br>
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                            GreekLUG δεν φέρει καμία ευθύνη για το
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                            εκφράζει μόνο τις απόψεις του συγγραφέα.<br>
                            > <br>
                            Χμμ, Arch Linux,<br>
                            Προσπάθησε να βάλεις τα πρέποντα
                            firmware/modules οπως<br>
                            αρμόζει στη διανομή σου, επίσης με την χρήση
                            του modprobe<br>
                            να τα φορτώσεις.<br>
                            Δεν ξέρω την αντίστοιχη εντολή του
                            "update-initramfs -u"<br>
                            για το Arch.<br>
                            Ισως κάποιος άλλος να σου δώσει πιο πολλές
                            πληροφορίες<br>
                            (ο jemadux ίσως που είχε κάποτε Arch)<br>
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                            gnugr<br>
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<a rel="nofollow" class="yiv8365316390moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank" href="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr">Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a>

<a rel="nofollow" class="yiv8365316390moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug">http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug</a>

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<a rel="nofollow" class="yiv8365316390moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank" href="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr">Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a>

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