To bluetooth θα το ξηλώσω, το virtualbox το χρειάζομαι όμως.. Αν το βγάλω απ' την εκκίνηση τότε μήπως θα έχω πρόβλημα όταν πάω να τρέξω το πρόγραμμα; Σε ένα mint που είχα δοκιμάσει να κάνω κάτι τέτοιο μου έβγαζε μήνυμα ότι δεν μπορούσε να ξεκινήσει το virtualbox. Υποθέτω ότι συνέβη για αυτόν ακριβώς το λόγο..<br>
<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Στις 1 Φεβρουαρίου 2013 - 12:41 π.μ., ο χρήστης Sergey Tsabolov ( aka linuxman ) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sergios@greeklug.gr" target="_blank">sergios@greeklug.gr</a>></span> έγραψε:<br>
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    Αν δεν το χρειάζεσαι βγάλε το τελείως το Vbox και το Bluetooth
    μπορείς να το βγάλεις επίσης <br>
    Και κάτι που μπορείς να δοκιμάσεις είναι να βάλεις static IP στην
    ασύρματη κάρτα σου και θα δεις μεγάλη διαφορά στην εκκίνηση.<br>
    Άλλα και στην ενσύρματη κάρτα μπορείς να κάνεις το ίδιο επίσης
    βοηθάει να κάνει ποιο γρήγορο boot.<br>
    <br>
    <div>Στις 31/01/2013 10:28 μμ, ο/η Παύλος
      Πόνος έγραψε:<br>
    </div><div><div class="h5">
    <blockquote type="cite">lspci -nn<br>
      <br>
      00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core
      Processor Family DRAM Controller [8086:0104] (rev 09)<br>
      00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd
      Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
      [8086:0106] (rev 09)<br>
      00:16.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation 6
      Series/C200 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 [8086:1c3a]
      (rev 04)<br>
      00:1a.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200
      Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 [8086:1c2d]
      (rev 04)<br>
      00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200
      Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:1c20]
      (rev 04)<br>
      00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series
      Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 [8086:1c10] (rev b4)<br>
      00:1c.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series
      Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 [8086:1c12] (rev b4)<br>
      00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200
      Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 [8086:1c26]
      (rev 04)<br>
      00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation HM65 Express Chipset
      Family LPC Controller [8086:1c49] (rev 04)<br>
      00:1f.2 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200
      Series Chipset Family 6 port SATA AHCI Controller [8086:1c03] (rev
      04)<br>
      00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series
      Chipset Family SMBus Controller [8086:1c22] (rev 04)<br>
      02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
      Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
      [10ec:8136] (rev 05)<br>
      03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Atheros Communications Inc.
      AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) [168c:002b] (rev 01)<br>
      <br>
      dmesg | tail -n 30<br>
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      [   13.054551] RPC: Registered tcp transport module.<br>
      [   13.054553] RPC: Registered tcp NFSv4.1 backchannel transport
      module.<br>
      <a href="tel:%5B%C2%A0%C2%A0%2013.102470" value="+13102470" target="_blank">[   13.102470</a>] FS-Cache: Loaded<br>
      [   13.157184] FS-Cache: Netfs 'nfs' registered for caching<br>
      [   13.171406] Installing knfsd (copyright (C) 1996 <a href="mailto:okir@monad.swb.de" target="_blank">okir@monad.swb.de</a>).<br>
      [   15.400324] input: ACPI Virtual Keyboard Device as
      /devices/virtual/input/input12<br>
      [   16.640248] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized<br>
      [   16.640253] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized<br>
      [   16.640255] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11<br>
      [   16.764067] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3<br>
      [   16.764070] Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast<br>
      [   17.197777] vboxdrv: Found 2 processor cores.<br>
      [   17.197870] vboxdrv: fAsync=1 offMin=0x431f7e offMax=0x431f7e<br>
      [   17.197945] vboxdrv: TSC mode is 'asynchronous', kernel timer
      mode is 'normal'.<br>
      [   17.197947] vboxdrv: Successfully loaded version 4.2.6
      (interface 0x001a0004).<br>
      [   17.621673] vboxpci: IOMMU not found (not registered)<br>
      [   17.985042] lp: driver loaded but no devices found<br>
      [   18.173369] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver<br>
      [   18.860198] r8169 0000:02:00.0: firmware: agent aborted loading
      rtl_nic/rtl8105e-1.fw (not found?)<br>
      [   18.861393] r8169 0000:02:00.0: eth0: unable to load firmware
      patch rtl_nic/rtl8105e-1.fw (-2)<br>
      [   18.982832] r8169 0000:02:00.0: eth0: link down<br>
      [   18.983656] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready<br>
      [   19.028379] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready<br>
      [   22.019486] wlan0: authenticate with 00:26:44:6a:77:90 (try 1)<br>
      [   22.021940] wlan0: authenticated<br>
      [   22.051911] wlan0: associate with 00:26:44:6a:77:90 (try 1)<br>
      [   22.054684] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:26:44:6a:77:90
      (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=1)<br>
      [   22.054692] wlan0: associated<br>
      [   22.055402] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready<br>
      [   32.640021] wlan0: no IPv6 routers present<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Όσο για το θέμα του ubuntu και του τι χρησιμοποιεί και είναι τόσο
      γρήγορο στην εκκίνηση δεν έχει νόημα να το συζητήσουμε.. Άλλωστε
      Μιχάλη νομίζω οι απόψεις μου επί του θέματος τις έχουμε συζητήσεις
      άπειρες φορές από κοντά!!<br>
      <br>
      Η κάρτα γραφικών που έχω είναι intel και είναι on-board, άρα θέμα
      οδηγού που φορτώνει δεν παίζει(έτσι νομίζω δηλαδή).<br>
      <br>
      Επειδή από τα αποτελέσματα των εντολών που είδα παραπάνω, θα κόψω
      απ' την εκκίνηση το bluetooth και το vboxdrv. Αυτό γίνεται από το
      /etc/modprobe.d με ένα αρχείο που πρέπει να βάλω, σωστά;<br>
      <br>
      Η εντολή dmesg | tail -n 30 αν δεν κάνω λάθος εμφανίζει το τι
      φορτώνει και σε ποιο χρονικό σημείο απ' την εκκίνηση.. Να αναφέρω
      εδώ ότι μπορεί όπως φαίνεται στο αποτέλεσμα αυτής το τελευταίο
      module να σηκώθηκε στο 32'' αλλά από εκείνο το σημείο και μετά
      κάνει άλλα 32'' μέχρι να μου εμφανίσει τη μπάρα του gnome 3
      επάνω.. Αυτό με έκανε εντύπωση και όχι τόσο ο χρόνος μέχρι να
      εμφανίσει το log-in screen...<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">Στις 31 Ιανουαρίου 2013 - 9:10 μ.μ., ο
        χρήστης mixasgr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mixas.gre@gmail.com" target="_blank">mixas.gre@gmail.com</a>></span>
        έγραψε:<br>
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            <div>Παύλο, αν έχεις τόση μεγάλη διαφορά... τότε μπορεί να
              παίζει θέμα drivers.<br>
              Γενικά το debian+gnome3 είναι αρκετά γρήγορο, θεωρητικά θα
              έπρεπε να είναι και γρηγορότερο από ubuntu+unity...<br>
              <br>
              Άρα το ότι κάνει το διπλάσιο χρόνο να φορτώσει μπορεί να
              σημαίνει ότι ανοικτός driver δεν διαβάζει σωστά ή απλά δεν
              μπορεί να αποδώσει όπως ο κλειστός. Το Ubuntu καλώς ή
              κακώς (μην ξεκινήσουμε και flame war) υποστηρίζει άμεσα
              διάφορα κλειστά "πράγματα" που βοηθούν τέτοιες
              περιπτώσεις. <br>
              Δεν λέω να βάλεις κλειστούς αλλά θα μπορούσες να
              δοκιμάσεις για παράδειγμα στην κάρτα γραφικών σου (η οποία
              αλήθεια τι είναι;).<br>
              <br>
              Υ.Γ 1' φόρτος εκκίνησης είναι αντικειμενικά πολύ καλός ή
              έχει παλιώσει το pc μου και μου φαίνεται πολύ γρήγορο κάτι
              τέτοιο :P<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              Στις 31/01/2013 01:43 πμ, ο/η Sergey Tsabolov ( aka
              linuxman ) έγραψε:<br>
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            <div>
              <div>
                <blockquote type="cite"> Για δώσε αποτέλεσμα εντολής <br>
                  lspci -nn <br>
                  <br>
                  και αποτέλεσμα από <br>
                  <br>
                  dmesg | tail -n 30<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <div>Στις 30/01/2013 11:34 μμ, ο/η Παύλος Πόνος
                    έγραψε:<br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote type="cite">Καλησπέρα!<br>
                    <br>
                    Έτρεξα το lsmod και όλα πλην 2 module που σηκώνονται
                    είναι χρήσιμα.. Το ένα που δεν είναι(τουλάχιστον
                    στην φάση της εκκίνησης) είναι το vboxdrv και το
                    άλλο το rfkill το οποίο είναι για το bluetooth..
                    Βέβαια για να είμαι απόλυτα ειλικρινής δεν
                    καταλαβαίνω και όλα τα module που έχει εκεί γιατί τα
                    ονόματα δεν είναι και τόσο ξεκάθαρα, τουλάχιστον για
                    μένα!!<br>
                    <br>
                    Επίσης δεν έχω ούτε το preload ούτε το prelink
                    εγκαταστημένα.<br>
                    <br>
                    Όσο για το χρόνο εκκίνησης που ρώτησες.. Απ' τη
                    στιγμή που πατάω το κουμπί απ' το λάπτοπ για να
                    ανοίξει σε 1' έχει εμφανιστεί η επιφάνεια εργασίας..
                    Από την εμπειρία μου που είχα για ένα διάστημα με το
                    ubuntu 12.04 ο χρόνος για τον ίδιο υπολογιστή ήταν
                    στα 30'' περίπου!! Και μιλάμε για υπολογιστή με 6GB
                    ram και dual core 2,4GHz επεξεργαστή.. Γι' αυτό με
                    κάνει τόσο εντύπωση τώρα..<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    <div class="gmail_quote">Στις 29 Ιανουαρίου 2013 -
                      11:26 μ.μ., ο χρήστης modenas88 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:modenas88@gmail.com" target="_blank">modenas88@gmail.com</a>></span>
                      έγραψε:<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr"><br>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">Στις 29 Ιανουαρίου
                              2013 - 10:19 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Παύλος Πόνος
                              <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ponospaulos@gmail.com" target="_blank">ponospaulos@gmail.com</a>></span>
                              έγραψε:
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                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Καλησπέρα!<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Καλή μου φαίνεται η ιδέα να ψάξω κάτι
                                  καινούργιο αλλά στο λάπτοπ μου που
                                  κάνω δουλειά και θέλω κάτι σταθερό και
                                  ασφαλές δεν θα πειραματιστώ με κάτι
                                  που δεν ξέρω.. Άσε που στην παρούσα
                                  φάση δεν έχω καθόλου μα καθόλου
                                  χρόνο..<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Επανέρχομαι στο θέμα της ταχύτητας στο
                                  booting του υπολογιστή.. Αν και έχω
                                  σβήσει απ' το startup application όλα
                                  τα περιττά (όπως evolution alarm,
                                  bluetooth, κτλ...) βλέπω ότι φορτώνει
                                  κάτι module για το bluetooth αλλά και
                                  κάτι αρχεία για εκτυπωτή ενώ εγώ δεν
                                  έχω καν σπίτι μου!!<br>
                                  Υπάρχει τρόπος, έστω από κονσόλα, να
                                  κλείσω αυτά τα modules που φορτώνουν
                                  στην εκκίνηση ώστε και πιο γρήγορη
                                  εκκίνηση να έχω αλλά και η κατανάλωση
                                  να είναι όσο το δυνατόν μικρότερη;<br>
                                  <br>
                                </blockquote>
                              </div>
                              <div>Για να αποτρέψεις ένα module να
                                φορτώνει στην εκκινηση, αρκεί να
                                φτιάξεις ένα text file στη διαδρομή
                                /etc/modprobe.d. Το αρχείο πρέπει να
                                έχει κατάληξη .conf (πχ foo.conf) και ως
                                περιεχόμενο βάζεις στην αρχή μιας
                                γραμμής το blacklist <όνομα
                                module>. πχ<br>
                              </div>
                              <div>blacklist nvidiafb<br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Για αναγνωρίσεις τα modules που είναι
                                ήδη φορτωμένα, τρέχεις lsmod.<br>
                                <br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Ωστόσο δεν νομίζω κάτι τέτοιο να
                                καθυστερεί τόσο την εκκίνηση! Μήπως
                                έχεις εγκατεστημένο το preload ή το
                                prelink;<br>
                                <br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Πόσο αργή είναι η εκκίνηση σε
                                δευτερόλεπτα; Και πόσο έκανα σε άλλα
                                συστήματα; Ένας τρόπος είναι το
                                bootchart για να δεις περίπου τι γίνεται
                                στην εκκίνηση.<br>
                                <a href="http://www.bootchart.org/" target="_blank">http://www.bootchart.org/</a><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Πάντως
                                    για gnome 3 και 64bit διανομή δεν
                                    νομίζω ότι είναι πολλά τα 300ΜΒ στην
                                    εκκίνηση.. Επειδή έχω δοκιμάσει
                                    πολλές διανομές για να καταλήξω στο
                                    debian (αν και ήμουν κάθετα
                                    αντίθετος στην αρχή στο gnome 3),
                                    για τον υπολογιστή μου ότι και αν
                                    δοκίμασα την ίδια κατανάλωση είχα
                                    πάντα...<br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <div class="gmail_quote">Στις 29
                                      Ιανουαρίου 2013 - 9:36 μ.μ., ο
                                      χρήστης Ioakim Tellidis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ioakim.t@gmail.com" target="_blank">ioakim.t@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                      έγραψε:
                                      <div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                            <div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma,
                                                sans-serif">Είναι
                                                πραγματικά μια καλή
                                                διανομή με ωραία
                                                κοινότητα. </font>
                                              <div> <font face="tahoma,
                                                  sans-serif"><br>
                                                </font></div>
                                              <div><font face="tahoma,
                                                  sans-serif">Αν
                                                  δεν βαριόμουνα να
                                                  εγκαθιστώ μια ντουζίνα
                                                  software και scripts
                                                  για το εργαστήριό μου,
                                                  πιθανών να την είχα
                                                  και εγώ σαν κύρια.</font></div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <div class="gmail_quote">2013/1/27

                                                    zisis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mysticalgr@gmail.com" target="_blank">mysticalgr@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
                                                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                                      <div dir="ltr">paei
                                                        o gnome-player,
                                                        VLC is the main
                                                        pleon ;)<br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">2013/1/27


                                                          Klearchos-Angelos

                                                          Gkountras <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kleagkou@gmail.com" target="_blank">kleagkou@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">μια


                                                          χαρα ειναι !#
                                                          αλλα , αυτο
                                                          που χαλασε
                                                          οταν το
                                                          δοκιμασα ειναι
                                                          οτι ο<br>
                                                          gnome-mplayer
                                                          δεν
                                                          υποστηριζει
                                                          ελληνικα
                                                          αλλιως θα το
                                                          ειχα ακομα και
                                                          τωρα<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Στις
                                                          27/01/2013
                                                          02:44 μμ, ο/η
                                                          zisis έγραψε:<br>
                                                          > Paulo,<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          > give
                                                          !#Crunchbang
                                                          <<a href="http://crunchbang.org/" target="_blank">http://crunchbang.org/</a>>


                                                          a shot, einai
                                                          based on
                                                          Debian<br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>>
                                                          Wheezy, exei
                                                          mallon one of
                                                          the greatest
                                                          communities
                                                          pou exw dei
                                                          teleutaia,<br>
                                                          > kai einai
                                                          super-cool-fast

                                                          kai
                                                          EXTRA-hackable.<br>
                                                          > to evala
                                                          sto laptop
                                                          prosfata kai
                                                          otan er8ei o
                                                          neos mou SSD,
                                                          8a ginei my
                                                          new<br>
                                                          > distro of
                                                          choise! ;)<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          > (ton
                                                          dialisa ton
                                                          hdd kai eimai
                                                          apo CrunchBang
                                                          Live twra
                                                          online hehe)<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          > p.s:
                                                          sorry gia ta
                                                          greeklish opws
                                                          eipa trexw
                                                          livedvd kai dn
                                                          exw ellinika<br>
                                                          > oute gia
                                                          digma :P )<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          > 2013/1/27
                                                          Klearchos-Angelos

                                                          Gkountras <<a href="mailto:kleagkou@gmail.com" target="_blank">kleagkou@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          >> άμα
                                                          θες μπορεις να
                                                          πας και στο
                                                          mate στο
                                                          debian wheezy<br>
                                                          >><br>
                                                          >>
                                                          πληροφορίες
                                                          εντός >>
                                                          <a href="http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download" target="_blank">http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download</a><br>
                                                          >><br>
                                                          >><br>
                                                          >> Στις
                                                          27/01/2013
                                                          12:13 μμ, ο/η
                                                          mixasgr
                                                          έγραψε:<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          Καλημέρα
                                                          Παύλο!<br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          Υπάρχουν
                                                          αρκετές
                                                          επιλογές,
                                                          ανάλογα με το
                                                          τι μπορείς να
                                                          αλλάξεις.<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          Το βασικό
                                                          είναι να
                                                          διαλέξεις ένα
                                                          DE που να
                                                          ταιριάζει στον
                                                          Η/Υ σου. Ίσως<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          το gnome3 που
                                                          έχεις τώρα να
                                                          του είναι βαρύ
                                                          και θα πρέπει
                                                          να πας σε κάτι<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          ελαφρύτερο.<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          Το επόμενο
                                                          βασικό είναι
                                                          να κλείσεις
                                                          από την
                                                          εκκίνηση ότι
                                                          δεν σου<br>
                                                          >>
                                                          χρειάζεται.<br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          Έπειτα να δεις
                                                          τις ρυθμίσεις
                                                          από τις
                                                          υπηρεσίες που
                                                          χρειάζεσαι,
                                                          που ίσως<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          μπορούν να
                                                          βελτιστοποιηθούν
                                                          πχ να αλλάξεις
                                                          κάποιες
                                                          ρυθμίσεις του<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          γραφικού όπως
                                                          το login
                                                          screen.<br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          Μετά σε
                                                          επίπεδο
                                                          λογισμικού
                                                          μπορείς να
                                                          παίξεις με τον
                                                          πυρήνα/grub.<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          Για παράδειγμα
                                                          μπορείς να
                                                          δοκιμάσεις
                                                          κάποιον άλλο
                                                          πυρήνα ή ακόμα
                                                          και να<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          τον κάνεις
                                                          compile ή/και
                                                          να ορίσεις εσύ
                                                          ποια module
                                                          θες να
                                                          φορτώνονται,<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          κλείνοντας
                                                          συσκευές που
                                                          μπορεί να
                                                          αργούν να
                                                          ανταποκριθούν.<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          Αυτό είναι
                                                          λιγάκι πιο
                                                          δύσκολο και
                                                          επικίνδυνο
                                                          επειδή θα
                                                          πρέπει να<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          πειράξεις
                                                          βασικά
                                                          πράγματα.
                                                          Υπάρχουν
                                                          πάντως αρκετές
                                                          αναφορές σε
                                                          διάφορες<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          διανομές ότι
                                                          πειράζοντας
                                                          τον πυρήνα
                                                          μπορεί η
                                                          απόδοση να
                                                          αλλάξει<br>
                                                          >>
                                                          θεαματικά.<br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          Τέλος, μπορείς
                                                          να πάρεις και
                                                          ένα SSD δίσκο
                                                          για το root...<br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          Αυτά μου
                                                          έρχονται στο
                                                          μυαλό αυτή την
                                                          στιγμή!<br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          Στις
                                                          27/01/2013
                                                          11:15 πμ, ο/η
                                                          Παύλος Πόνος
                                                          έγραψε:<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          Τελικά με το
                                                          clearlooks
                                                          νομίζω ότι
                                                          είναι κάπως
                                                          καλύτερα τα
                                                          πράγματα!<br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          Να ρωτήσω και
                                                          κάτι άλλο..<br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          Σε σχέση με το
                                                          squeeze(που
                                                          είναι πολύ πιο
                                                          παλιά έκδοση
                                                          βέβαια) ο<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          χρόνος που
                                                          κάνει να για
                                                          εμφανίσει την
                                                          μπάρα επάνω
                                                          για μπορέσω να
                                                          μπω<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          στο ίντερνετ
                                                          είναι πολύ
                                                          μεγαλύτερος
                                                          τώρα που έβαλα
                                                          την wheezy..
                                                          Θα μου<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          πει κανείς ότι
                                                          είναι
                                                          gnome-shell,
                                                          όχι
                                                          gnome-panel.<br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          Η απορία μου
                                                          είναι αν μπορώ
                                                          να κάνω κάτι
                                                          για να
                                                          βελτιώσω
                                                          λιγάκι το<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          χρόνο που
                                                          χρειάζεται για
                                                          να ανοίξει ο
                                                          υπολογιστής.<br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          Πήγα στο
                                                          /etc/xdg/autostart/
                                                          και έκανα
                                                          false ότι δεν
                                                          θέλω να
                                                          σηκώνεται<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          κατά την
                                                          εκκίνηση αλλά
                                                          και πάλι δεν
                                                          είδα πολλές
                                                          αλλαγές...<br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          Στις 27
                                                          Ιανουαρίου
                                                          2013 - 1:31
                                                          π.μ., ο
                                                          χρήστης
                                                          Vangelis
                                                          Skarmoutsos<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          <<a href="mailto:skarmoutsosv@gmail.com" target="_blank">skarmoutsosv@gmail.com</a>
                                                          <mailto:<a href="mailto:skarmoutsosv@gmail.com" target="_blank">skarmoutsosv@gmail.com</a>>>


                                                          έγραψε:<br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                              Εγώ
                                                          χρησιμοποιώ
                                                          Gnome classic
                                                          με θέμα
                                                          Clearlooks. Τα
                                                          κουμπιά<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                             
                                                          ελαχιστοποίηση,
                                                          μεγιστοποίηση
                                                          και κλείσιμο,
                                                          φαίνονται μια
                                                          χαρά.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                              Στις 26
                                                          Ιανουαρίου
                                                          2013 - 9:52
                                                          μ.μ., ο
                                                          χρήστης Παύλος
                                                          Πόνος<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                              <<a href="mailto:ponospaulos@gmail.com" target="_blank">ponospaulos@gmail.com</a>
                                                          <mailto:<a href="mailto:ponospaulos@gmail.com" target="_blank">ponospaulos@gmail.com</a>>>


                                                          έγραψε:<br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                 
                                                          Καλησπέρα σε
                                                          όλους!!<br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                 
                                                          Δοκίμασα και
                                                          πέρασα στον
                                                          υπολογιστή μου
                                                          (βασικά έκανα
                                                          καθαρή<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                 
                                                          εγκατάσταση
                                                          από debian
                                                          squeeze) την
                                                          debian wheezy.<br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                  Ως
                                                          γνωστόν αυτή
                                                          τη στιγμή
                                                          είναι σε φάση
                                                          frozen και
                                                          μέχρι να<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                 
                                                          μηδενίσουν να
                                                          critical bugs
                                                          (που απ' ότι
                                                          είδα σήμερα το
                                                          πρωί<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                  είναι
                                                          περίπου στα
                                                          240) δεν
                                                          μπορεί να βγει
                                                          release
                                                          κανονική..<br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                  Εγώ
                                                          που
                                                          εγκατέστησα
                                                          την wheezy
                                                          πριν βγει το
                                                          επίσημο
                                                          release,<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                  όταν
                                                          αυτά τα
                                                          critical bugs
                                                          διορθωθούν εγώ
                                                          θα μπορέσω να
                                                          πάρω<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                  τις
                                                          αναβαθμίσεις
                                                          σε αυτά; Στις
                                                          πηγές
                                                          λογισμικού έχω
                                                          επιλεγμένα<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                  τα
                                                          εξής:<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                 
                                                           -wheezy
                                                          security<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                 
                                                           -wheezy
                                                          updates<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                  Ενώ
                                                          στον έλεγχο
                                                          για
                                                          ενημερώσεις
                                                          έχω επιλεγμένο
                                                          τον έλεγχο για<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                 
                                                          ενημερώσεις
                                                          ημερησίως..<br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                 
                                                          Επίσης, ξέρει
                                                          κανείς κανένα
                                                          καλό theme για
                                                          τα κουμπιά<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                 
                                                          "μεγιστοποιήσης',
                                                          "ελαχιστοποίησης"


                                                          και
                                                          "κλείσιμο";
                                                          Όσα και αν<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                 
                                                          δοκίμασα δεν
                                                          βρήκα κάτι
                                                          καλό. Βασικά
                                                          το default που
                                                          έχει δεν<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                  λέει
                                                          και πολλά και
                                                          είπα να ψάξω
                                                          λίγο μήπως και
                                                          το αλλάξω!<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                 
                                                          Greeklug
                                                          mailing list<br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                  <a href="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank">Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a>
                                                          <mailto:<a href="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank">Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a>><br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                  <a href="http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug" target="_blank">http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug</a><br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                 
                                                          ----------------------------------------<br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                  Ο
                                                          Σύλλογος
                                                          "ΕΝΩΣΗ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ
                                                          ΧΡΗΣΤΩΝ ΚΑΙ
                                                          ΦΙΛΩΝ ΕΛΛΑΚ"
                                                          (GREEK.L.U.G)<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                  δεν
                                                          φέρει απολύτως
                                                          καμία ευθύνη
                                                          για το
                                                          περιεχόμενο
                                                          του<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                 
                                                          παρόντος
                                                          e-mail το
                                                          οποίο εκφράζει
                                                          αποκλειστικά
                                                          απόψεις του<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                                 
                                                          συγγραφέα.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          Greeklug
                                                          mailing list<br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          <a href="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank">Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a><br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          <a href="http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug" target="_blank">http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>
----------------------------------------<br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          Ο Σύλλογος
                                                          "ΕΝΩΣΗ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ
                                                          ΧΡΗΣΤΩΝ ΚΑΙ
                                                          ΦΙΛΩΝ ΕΛΛΑΚ"
                                                          (GREEK.L.U.G)<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          δεν φέρει
                                                          απολύτως καμία
                                                          ευθύνη για το
                                                          περιεχόμενο
                                                          του παρόντος
                                                          e-mail<br>
                                                          >> το
                                                          οποίο εκφράζει
                                                          αποκλειστικά
                                                          απόψεις του
                                                          συγγραφέα.<br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          Greeklug
                                                          mailing list<br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>> <a href="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank">Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a><br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>> <a href="http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug" target="_blank">http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug</a><br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          ----------------------------------------<br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>> Ο
                                                          Σύλλογος
                                                          "ΕΝΩΣΗ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ
                                                          ΧΡΗΣΤΩΝ ΚΑΙ
                                                          ΦΙΛΩΝ ΕΛΛΑΚ"
                                                          (GREEK.L.U.G)<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          δεν φέρει
                                                          απολύτως καμία
                                                          ευθύνη για το
                                                          περιεχόμενο
                                                          του παρόντος
                                                          e-mail<br>
                                                          >> το
                                                          οποίο εκφράζει
                                                          αποκλειστικά
                                                          απόψεις του
                                                          συγγραφέα.<br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >><br>
                                                          >><br>
                                                          >> --<br>
                                                          >>
                                                          Klearchos-Angelos
                                                          Gkountras<br>
                                                          >><br>
                                                          >>
                                                          Greeklug
                                                          mailing list<br>
                                                          >><br>
                                                          >> <a href="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank">Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a><br>
                                                          >><br>
                                                          >> <a href="http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug" target="_blank">http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug</a><br>
                                                          >><br>
                                                          >>
                                                          ----------------------------------------<br>
                                                          >><br>
                                                          >> Ο
                                                          Σύλλογος
                                                          "ΕΝΩΣΗ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ
                                                          ΧΡΗΣΤΩΝ ΚΑΙ
                                                          ΦΙΛΩΝ ΕΛΛΑΚ"
                                                          (GREEK.L.U.G)<br>
                                                          >> δεν
                                                          φέρει απολύτως
                                                          καμία ευθύνη
                                                          για το
                                                          περιεχόμενο
                                                          του παρόντος
                                                          e-mail το<br>
                                                          >> οποίο
                                                          εκφράζει
                                                          αποκλειστικά
                                                          απόψεις του
                                                          συγγραφέα.<br>
                                                          >><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <span><font color="#888888">--<br>
                                                          Klearchos-Angelos


                                                          Gkountras<br>
                                                          </font></span></blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Greeklug mailing
                                                      list<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <a href="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank">Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a><br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <a href="http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug" target="_blank">http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug</a><br>
                                                      <br>
----------------------------------------<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Ο Σύλλογος "ΕΝΩΣΗ
                                                      ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΧΡΗΣΤΩΝ
                                                      ΚΑΙ ΦΙΛΩΝ ΕΛΛΑΚ"
                                                      (GREEK.L.U.G)<br>
                                                      δεν φέρει απολύτως
                                                      καμία ευθύνη για
                                                      το περιεχόμενο του
                                                      παρόντος e-mail το
                                                      οποίο εκφράζει
                                                      αποκλειστικά
                                                      απόψεις του
                                                      συγγραφέα.<br>
                                                    </blockquote>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <br>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            Greeklug mailing list<br>
                                            <br>
                                            <a href="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank">Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a><br>
                                            <br>
                                            <a href="http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug" target="_blank">http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug</a><br>
                                            <br>
----------------------------------------<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Ο Σύλλογος "ΕΝΩΣΗ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ
                                            ΧΡΗΣΤΩΝ ΚΑΙ ΦΙΛΩΝ ΕΛΛΑΚ"
                                            (GREEK.L.U.G)<br>
                                            δεν φέρει απολύτως καμία
                                            ευθύνη για το περιεχόμενο
                                            του παρόντος e-mail το οποίο
                                            εκφράζει αποκλειστικά
                                            απόψεις του συγγραφέα.<br>
                                          </blockquote>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Greeklug mailing list<br>
                                    <br>
                                    <a href="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank">Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a><br>
                                    <br>
                                    <a href="http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug" target="_blank">http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug</a><br>
                                    <br>
----------------------------------------<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Ο Σύλλογος "ΕΝΩΣΗ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΧΡΗΣΤΩΝ
                                    ΚΑΙ ΦΙΛΩΝ ΕΛΛΑΚ" (GREEK.L.U.G)<br>
                                    δεν φέρει απολύτως καμία ευθύνη για
                                    το περιεχόμενο του παρόντος e-mail
                                    το οποίο εκφράζει αποκλειστικά
                                    απόψεις του συγγραφέα.<br>
                                  </blockquote>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <br>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
                    </div>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    <fieldset></fieldset>
                    <br>
                    <pre>Greeklug mailing list

<a href="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank">Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a>

<a href="http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug" target="_blank">http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug</a>

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Ο Σύλλογος "ΕΝΩΣΗ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΧΡΗΣΤΩΝ ΚΑΙ ΦΙΛΩΝ ΕΛΛΑΚ" (GREEK.L.U.G)
δεν φέρει απολύτως καμία ευθύνη για το περιεχόμενο του παρόντος e-mail το οποίο εκφράζει αποκλειστικά απόψεις του συγγραφέα.</pre>
                  </blockquote>
                  <br>
                  <pre cols="72">-- 
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Don't send me documents in .doc , .docx, .xls, .ppt . , .pptx
Send it with ODF format : .odt , .odp , .ods or .pdf .
Try to use Open Document Format : <a href="http://el.libreoffice.org/" target="_blank">http://el.libreoffice.org/</a>
Save you money   &  use GNU/Linux Distro <a href="http://distrowatch.com/" target="_blank">http://distrowatch.com/</a> 
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First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win!!! </pre>
                  <br>
                  <fieldset></fieldset>
                  <br>
                  <pre>Greeklug mailing list

<a href="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank">Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a>

<a href="http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug" target="_blank">http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug</a>

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Ο Σύλλογος "ΕΝΩΣΗ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΧΡΗΣΤΩΝ ΚΑΙ ΦΙΛΩΝ ΕΛΛΑΚ" (GREEK.L.U.G)
δεν φέρει απολύτως καμία ευθύνη για το περιεχόμενο του παρόντος e-mail το οποίο εκφράζει αποκλειστικά απόψεις του συγγραφέα.</pre>
                </blockquote>
                <br>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
          <br>
          <br>
          Greeklug mailing list<br>
          <br>
          <a href="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank">Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a><br>
          <br>
          <a href="http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug" target="_blank">http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug</a><br>
          <br>
          ----------------------------------------<br>
          <br>
          Ο Σύλλογος "ΕΝΩΣΗ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΧΡΗΣΤΩΝ ΚΑΙ ΦΙΛΩΝ ΕΛΛΑΚ"
          (GREEK.L.U.G)<br>
          δεν φέρει απολύτως καμία ευθύνη για το περιεχόμενο του
          παρόντος e-mail το οποίο εκφράζει αποκλειστικά απόψεις του
          συγγραφέα.<br>
        </blockquote>
      </div>
      <br>
      <br>
      <fieldset></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre>Greeklug mailing list

<a href="mailto:Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr" target="_blank">Greeklug@mail.greeklug.gr</a>

<a href="http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug" target="_blank">http://lists.greeklug.gr/mailman/listinfo/greeklug</a>

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Ο Σύλλογος "ΕΝΩΣΗ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΧΡΗΣΤΩΝ ΚΑΙ ΦΙΛΩΝ ΕΛΛΑΚ" (GREEK.L.U.G)
δεν φέρει απολύτως καμία ευθύνη για το περιεχόμενο του παρόντος e-mail το οποίο εκφράζει αποκλειστικά απόψεις του συγγραφέα.</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    <pre cols="72">-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't send me documents in .doc , .docx, .xls, .ppt . , .pptx
Send it with ODF format : .odt , .odp , .ods or .pdf .
Try to use Open Document Format : <a href="http://el.libreoffice.org/" target="_blank">http://el.libreoffice.org/</a>
Save you money   &  use GNU/Linux Distro <a href="http://distrowatch.com/" target="_blank">http://distrowatch.com/</a> 
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First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win!!! </pre>
  </div></div></div>

</blockquote></div><br>